# Liner not completely created

**URL:** <https://forum.itascainternational.com/t/liner-not-completely-created/1717>\
**Category:** FLAC3D\
**Created:** [September 25, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.itascainternational.com/t/liner-not-completely-created/1717 "2024-09-25T12:48:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Adams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Adams](https://forum.itascainternational.com/u/Adams)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.itascainternational.com/t/liner-not-completely-created/1717/1 "2024-09-25T12:48:23Z")

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Dear [@itascan](https://forum.itascainternational.com/groups/itascan)

I created a liner but the liner is not developed completely. Based on my line of code, I specified that the liner should go as deep as 1 foot below the excavation limit. However, the liner did not get to that point causing excessive deformation. You can see what I am trying to say from the links in the snippet attached. Please help

In addition, how can I remove the liner I used for an excavation stage when I am done backfilling?

See the snippet below

 ![Model_Liner](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/itasca/original/2X/c/c9e4cfc96377ca5f7bd18381d6f65f57f3ab6463.png)

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**Author:** ![dblanksma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@dblanksma](https://forum.itascainternational.com/u/dblanksma)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 1:46pm UTC](https://forum.itascainternational.com/t/liner-not-completely-created/1717/2 "2024-09-25T13:46:36Z")

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Hello @Adams,  
First check to see if the zone face named _liner-3_ extends to where you want. You can make a zone face plot item to check this.

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**Author:** ![Adams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Adams](https://forum.itascainternational.com/u/Adams)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.itascainternational.com/t/liner-not-completely-created/1717/3 "2024-09-25T13:56:07Z")

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That is the challenge, it is not extending to where I want it to. See the snippet for the zone face.

 ![Model_L](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/itasca/original/2X/1/13f16c8232231edc17dd09b5ad5ad0d167d39ea7.png)

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**Author:** ![dblanksma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@dblanksma](https://forum.itascainternational.com/u/dblanksma)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.itascainternational.com/t/liner-not-completely-created/1717/4 "2024-09-25T14:57:34Z")

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In that case I would check the `range position-<>` keywords when making the zone face to ensure they fall with in the range.

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**Author:** ![Adams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Adams](https://forum.itascainternational.com/u/Adams)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.itascainternational.com/t/liner-not-completely-created/1717/5 "2024-09-25T15:15:29Z")

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I have checked it severally. I still did not know why it is not creating. I wanted the liner to go 1 or 2 ft into the ground (and that’s like giving it a coordinate of -1 or -2 in the Z-direction) but it is not creating it.

At some point, I tried to use 3ft down (-3 in the z-direction) and saw a warning message. I have attached the snippet maybe the message can lead you to how you can help me.

 ![M-L](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/itasca/original/2X/b/be083fda0f81e845adf70b0178fee550784741bb.png)

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**Author:** ![dblanksma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@dblanksma](https://forum.itascainternational.com/u/dblanksma)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.itascainternational.com/t/liner-not-completely-created/1717/6 "2024-09-25T15:22:21Z")

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@Adams , I am not sure then. I’d suggest you send your model to [flac3dsupport@itascacg.com](mailto:flac3dsupport@itascacg.com).

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**Author:** ![Adams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Adams](https://forum.itascainternational.com/u/Adams)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.itascainternational.com/t/liner-not-completely-created/1717/7 "2024-09-25T17:28:23Z")

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I have bundled the file and sent it to the email addresses. The line of code that does not work for the liner installation before excavation worked in for after MSE construction. Hopefully, they can fix that.

However, after installing the liner here. The resultant portion shows 144 invalid elements. Even though I could see the displacement node’s magnitude. Please what could be the issue?

See snippet.

 ![Liner-issue](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/itasca/original/2X/2/27ff25403a65f83218c74d32db77a47d4adffc7b.png)
